Sandra Wasseur (Oracle): “Girls’ Day is really necessary to inspire girls”

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Sandra Wasseur (Oracle): “Girls’ Day is really necessary to inspire girls”

If there’s anyone standing on the barricade for women in tech, it’s Sandra Wasseur. When she is not working at Oracle on marketing within Northern, Eastern and Western Europe for more than 40 countries, she leads the Oracle Women Leadership Team (OWL) for the Netherlands. And also helping to organize Girls’ Day: the annual event where young girls come over to see that professions in science, mathematics, technology or engineering are very nice.


Sandra’s interview was conducted around Women’s Day: a busy period for her, because with her role within the Oracle Women Leadership Team (of which there are 113 communities around the world), there is a lot to do around this day. “I’ve been with Oracle for 17 years and I’ve been with OWL for about 6 years now. I do that because I care a lot about the subject. I am a feminist. Nobody says it anymore, it is even seen as negative, but I believe that women’s emancipation is not complete and I try to help women. For example, by teaching them the rules of the game and helping them to develop.”

That doesn’t come completely out of the blue with Sandra. “Since I was 17 years old, I read Opzij. Men have helped me a lot in my career, but at the same time, when you are still young and modest, you also experience less pleasant moments as a woman. I’m glad that atmosphere has now changed and everyone understands that this is a problem. I’m still of the generation: ‘Oh, that’s part of it’, but I’m very happy that young women don’t have to take that anymore, although it still happens in reality.”

Sandra would like to see a fair distribution between men and women. “I would like to see women working at the same level as men, but the reality is that we are far from that. Especially in certain industries. I really try to make a contribution with OWL, for example to get more women on board. We work together with Women in Tech, we ensure that women speak at events, that they are helped in how they can improve. In addition, we actively provide men at Oracle with information to show how they can contribute to equality in the workplace. It is important that they know that they can make an active contribution and what the importance of behavior is in this.”

Culture change

As an example, Sandra talks about a subject that is fortunately gaining more and more visibility: with 10 requirements in a vacancy, women think that if they do not meet one or two, it is better not to apply. Men think in such a case: oh I can do that, just write a letter. We want to show men that other words can be used and show them how they really compare neutrally in a job interview. Women position themselves much more carefully and often more modestly: men should be aware of this. Everyone has unconscious biases, it’s a natural thing for your brain to do. A short connection in the brain makes everyday life easier.” It’s just not convenient that it creates prejudices.

OWL would like to achieve a culture change and it does this, among other things, by making people aware of what women suffer from in everyday life and how they react. “Research also shows that men are judged by their potential, women by what they have done. When a woman becomes a mother, colleagues expect her to focus on the family: when it comes to men, people don’t think about that.” So there is still a lot to make people aware of and Sandra does this, among other things, by giving a presentation to all new employees. But at the same time there is also another goal: to ensure that there will soon be a good group of women to choose from when jobs become available. And for that Sandra looks for it at the roots.

Girls’ day

“If you want more women in technical professions, because there is a shortage of them, then you have to get started early on. We have 30 percent women at Oracle, well above the IT industry average, but women make up half of society. Children choose a direction very early on and many boys choose STEM courses, or courses within the domains of ‘Science, Technology, Engineering & Mathematics’. We would like to influence girls to opt for a STEM education more often, then more girls will move on to those fields.” The ultimate goal is to create a better male/female ratio in technical workplaces.

Sandra therefore thinks Girls’ Day is a fantastic initiative. After a few corona editions, the girls can finally take a look at the real workplace again and be inspired there. Sandra: “Our Girls’ Day is at two locations: in our offices in Utrecht and Amsterdam, where we discuss what ‘technical’ means and what career choices there are. Girls between 10 and 15 years old come along. We especially want to tell them that they are better and can do more than they think. She was once asked who was good at math. Two girls raised their hands. Then we asked: who is good enough for math? All girls, it turned out. Things are quite different with boys. It would be quicker to think: I am good enough, so I am good at math.”

Girls’ Day is there to show girls that they can do much more than they think and how much fun the professions are. “We show that there are nice women who can and do this. We do this, among other things, by having a playful approach to building dashboards, but also by creating an escape room and a programming section, for example. By showing that it is fun and that the girls can do things themselves, we hope that they will choose that STEM direction. We therefore like to show them the office, that dynamic of how nice it is in IT.”

Oracle Academy

Another way to help young people is the Oracle Academy. This training arm of Oracle works closely with educational institutions to provide students with free access to certain IT courses and IT resources. Consider working with:

  • Java;
  • project management;
  • database (design);
  • and deploying Oracle’s Cloud Infrastructure.

Oracle’s workshops are particularly interesting for secondary education. Students can learn how to program with Alice, Greenfoot and the Finch Robot, for example. Or they learn about Einstein’s Theory of Relativity in the STEM Science workshop.

Super nice initiatives, and not even necessarily to bind all pupils and students to Oracle. “It is in any case to make a social contribution, to help others on their way. And of course I would love it if one of those girls ended up working at Oracle.” Who knows what will come of it!

Girls’ Day will take place on March 30 this year. Oracle also takes a group of students to the coolest innovations within their company. Are you also curious what that looks like? – You check the live coverage of it on @techgirlnl (Instagram and TikTok) See you there!

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